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dirtracer1
08-09-2004, 01:17 AM
do any of you guys have any experience with the parma fascolor paints? maybe you could give me some tips using them. i've got plenty of experience with pactra enamals, but none with the water based paints.
-do you spray right from the bottle, or do you mix it with water....if so, at what ratio....50/50 or what?
-can you combine enamals and water based paints in the same paint scheme?
-when you finish your paint scheme, do you back the whole thing up with an enamal?
-what pressures do you spay water based paints?
any other tips you guys might be able to share would be appreciated. thanks.
:yes:

Dan the Man
08-09-2004, 01:55 AM
I've been using them a lot.

I thin 'em down but only a little. Essentially I top off a new bottle with purified water, and drop in a BB so I can mix it well by shaking.

I have real trouble with the white clogging my brush. It doesn't happen with the other colors.

They're really sensetive to fingerprints on the plastic. You need to wash out the body before you mask it, and avoid getting your sticky fingers on the unpainted surfaces before you paint them.

You can combine paint types but you ought to let the one kind cure (not just dry) before going to the other. This means an hour in hot sunshine or a day indoors.

I generally take the last backing color I sprayed (white for flourescent or silver for metallic or whatever) and do a big final thick coat.

You want to let the body sit for a few days to let the paint toughen up before you race it. I also back places that rub with stickers.

They sell a "protector" (Faskoat), it's essentially the paint base without any pigments. You can also use it for glitter paintjobs.

I spray most colors at ~30 psi for control and ~40 for big areas.

dirtracer1
08-09-2004, 11:24 AM
thanks dan. ;)

dirtracer1
08-09-2004, 11:52 PM
dan....what do you use to clean your brush after using parma faskolor paints?.....water?....or do you use something else...and do you cut that with water? thanks. ;)

Dan the Man
08-09-2004, 11:57 PM
I take the whole tip apart after every color and clean it thoroughly with hot water and lots of it. The paint tends to cake up in the brush.

What kind of brush do you have?

dirtracer1
08-10-2004, 12:02 AM
iwata.....i've heard of windex being used....does this sound right?

Dan the Man
08-10-2004, 12:33 AM
Never tried it. It should be fine on the brush. You'd just want to make sure you ran it dry before putting in the paint.

Do you like the Iwata? I plan to get an Eclipse CS or Revolution CR at some point. I'm sick of the spattering from my Paasche VL.

dirtracer1
08-10-2004, 12:47 AM
i had that exact airbrush and i had the same problem with it. hated that thing and would never recommend one to anyone. love the iwata. it's a really great airbrush and worth every penny (although they really don't cost that much considering the quality that you get). i have the eclilpse hp-bcs and really recommend it. :yes:

dirtracer1
08-10-2004, 01:02 AM
this is where i bought my iwata.....http://www.bearair.com/
my hp-bcs was only about 80.00 and according to their site now, they have it for only 75.00. that ain't too bad. ;)

Dan the Man
08-10-2004, 01:48 AM
I just don't like the bottle feed - too much wasted paint. I really want HP-CS or -BS. The first has a bigger cup which is better for large areas but worse for visibility and control.

Someone once told me in one of these forums that the gravity feed doesn't clog as easy. But they cost more for some reason - $105 from Bear Air.

DCM
08-10-2004, 08:01 AM
I use Faskolor and the only thing I don't like, is you can't do realy fine detail as you need a high(ish) pressure through the airbrush. Thinning is about 5ml into a new bottle of Faskolor paint, and thats it, nothing more, otherwise it goes too watery.

As for cleaning, I use nothing other than lots of water and something soft to clean out the nozzle.

When I spray, to make it go quicker, I warm up the shell first with a hairdryer or hot air gun, spray tha paint, hotair gun again, until the paint loses its sheen, and then you can do another coat. That way you can do a TC shell in one evening with multi colours too, and it is ready to cut out the next day.

Randy P
08-10-2004, 10:49 AM
I agree with Dan and DCM. However I don't add any water to my Fastkolor. I can get the detail stuff done I just run low pressure or I've had luck with actually getting the paint cooler the room temp so it's thicker allowing it to flow slower out of the brush.

I clean mine with lots of warm/hot water and have not tried the windex idea but I also have heard of it.

My psi's are right on with Dan's also.

T4daddy
08-11-2004, 12:20 AM
The best thing about the fascolors is that you can spray in the house with no foul odors (the wife will never know) unless you clean up a spill with one of those for looks only hand towels.

dirtracer1
08-11-2004, 12:36 AM
lol....been there, done that....but on the plus colume, i've got some really great rags now. :p

DCM
08-19-2004, 04:47 AM
Faskolor realy are great paints once you get used to them, and you can spray a shell realy quick with them, here is te shell of my boys buggy I did yesterday evening. HERE (http://academyracer.fotopic.net/c262927.html)